Open Thread Thursday: What’s on Your Mind, Neighbors?

March 17, 2011

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{ 19 comments }

1 carol 03.17.11 at 6:34 am

I’m still hung up on the article about the thugs roughing up security guards at RBHS, and threatening witnesses. Maybe the south end needs a little Egypt-style protest action.

2 JvA 03.17.11 at 7:54 am

It’s a sad testament to the extent to which the city has given up on RBHS that the only mainstream news coverage that story has gotten is a link from KIRO to seattlecrime.com.

3 Tasha 03.17.11 at 9:01 am

@ Carol

You are right on the money. Folks BEEN needed to come together and protest and raise awareness about the situation. How long are people going to sit back and watch the ok corral take place?

4 Carol 03.17.11 at 9:13 am

Um… where does the Mayor live?

Actually Tasha, this is my dilemma. I’m happy to protest, but against what. On the one hand I can see being angry at the administration that doesn’t give us much support down here, but on the other hand, I think the neighborhood needs to also start sticking up for itself.

I’m sorry I missed the community meeting at RBHS last night. Did anyone go? If so, how was it?

5 MarkB 03.17.11 at 10:59 am
6 mimi 03.17.11 at 11:11 am

thanks Mark, me too

7 tiffany 03.17.11 at 11:31 am

A tale of two neighborhoods:

This morning, while driving down 35th, I pulled over to let a car squeeze through an area where the street was only one-car wide (because of street parking). She waved at me I waved back. Everybody felt good.

About 15 minutes later, when driving through Madison Park, a truck pulled over to let me through in the same sort of situation. I waved as I passed to thank him and he threw up his hands and started cursing.

Made me really appreciate our hood.

8 Lou 03.17.11 at 11:40 am

I went to Southshore and remember this happening once when I was in middle school, except it was only one dude and rumor was he had his weapon out, I only saw him out running security by a mile as he escaped. The school was so bad they bulldozed it, then in a stroke of genus built two more schools on the same spot that are now facing the same problems I did. There are too many schools on a bad street, RBHS cannot be moved but why were the New School and Southlake both put right there. This is why you should not allow people to make decisions about this neighborhood that weren’t born here or moved here at a very young age.
I don’t want to discredit anyone who recently moved here or has been here for 20 years but, there is a different perspective when you are 12 and on the #7 compared to 30. You understand the appeal, affect and therefore remedy of gangs better when they are all older and bigger than you.

9 Tasha 03.17.11 at 12:28 pm

Maybe protest against the violence and bring awareness. There have been marches in the past but no one has showed up. We need to get our elected officials and neighbors to really look at this as a serious social issue.

10 tiffany 03.17.11 at 12:57 pm

Most protests don’t really accomplish much when all is said and done. What we really need are allies within the groups that are setting and enforcing policies. It’s hard for a large, angry (and rightfully so) group to form a real alliance with policymakers. It’ll take a few calm, logical, dedicated community representatives who are willing to commit the time it takes to forge those relationships to actually get some real change happening around here.

11 Whitney 03.17.11 at 9:48 pm

City Elected Officials, why do I feel like the only way for us to be saved from the gang violence in south Seattle is the arrival of an imaginary superhero?

Tiffany, Indeed. I always have road raging experiences in north Seattle, and am thankful for the perspective and grounded attitude of south Seattle drivers, even the interesting drivers on Rainier.

12 Tom T 03.17.11 at 9:57 pm

I think real change only happens when a neighborhood pulls together , watches out for each other and are not willing to tolerate or excuse bad behavior – even if it is close family.

13 musicanimal 03.17.11 at 10:26 pm

What’s on my mind is being told that a certain Ale House is sold out of corned beef and cabbage, only to watch a couple that arrived long after us be given two plates of it that the waitress somehow magically, hush-hush, materialized. it was not reserved or ordered ahead. the couple was about to leave when told that the corned beef and cabbage was sold out. I tried to speak to our waitress about this discrepancy, and was given a huge brush-off. Needless to say, i won’t dine there ever again….

14 MarkB 03.18.11 at 8:34 am

musicanimal’
I went to “a certain Ale house” during the World Cup, on the board it said $3.00 pints during the World Cup. We sat down, the bartender stared at us 3 or 4 times during the last 15 minutes of the game, acted to busy to serve us, then “magically” had time to serve us “right after” the game ended and charged us $5.50 a pint. (although she said “$5.00 each, $22.00″, nice math)

15 Fred 03.18.11 at 11:12 am

First off look out for your neighbors. Report suspicious activities and people. You can do this anonymously or let the police know you do not want an officer to come to your house. They will call on the phone for details.

Band together. Insist on equal representation in this part of town. Too many of our city council have never been here much less understand the problems. Elections are not far away. Either run for office or help someone run who is from the south end, not just in address but also in heart.

Insist the schools do better by our students. Where there are problems bring in people with ability. Go see the Movie “Waiting for Superman” It is being shown at various places in the south end, sponsored by the Rainier Valley Rotary.

Get involved. Join the crime prevention council. A good citizen does not just complain, they lookout for others and get involved.

16 Tasha 03.18.11 at 1:26 pm

@ Tiffany

It’s the attitude of “it won’t help” that continues to divide our community.

Just sayin…..

17 really 03.18.11 at 4:31 pm

Wondering when we are going to get some juvenile laws that actually allow for a real punishment.

There is a certain 17 year old who keeps getting out of jail. He is arrested on a Thursday and mashing down 23rd in his car the next day.

The police can round up these kids all day long ( all they need to do is check out youtube…yep..they are posting their exploits) but when they do get ‘em….our laws get them a slap on the wrist.

18 CBO 03.19.11 at 9:18 am

Not a fan of the Ale house at all. If we don’t get a real bar down here I’m gonna lose my fracking mind!

I want to drink Rainier bottles and eat wings and watch the Mariners game in my neighborhood.

To dream the impossible dream.

19 angeldove 03.19.11 at 5:05 pm

@CBO

the city decided that Angies was a bad bar to have in Columbia City, doesn’t seemed to have helped that it was closed down. It was the best place to have a cold beer and watch a game. I really miss the place. I have yet to find a bar to replace it. Going to Vince’s tonight to have one last drink and a pizza before they shut down. What a shame, our valley is without a gathering place.

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